"Instead of stinging nettle, myrtle will rise" (Isaiah 55:13)
 "Instead of evil, good will rise." (The Malbim's Interpretation)
Myrtle Rising
  • Blog
  • Comments Disabled
    • Privacy Policy
  • Aliyah
    • Mini-Intro
    • General Cultural Insights
    • School Tips
  • Kli Yakar Index
  • Most Popular
  • Contact

Part I: Why I Initially Rejected a Fundamental Torah Idea & How I Learned to Embrace It

5/10/2021

1 Comment

 
I have some vague memory of occasionally hearing in the secular world the idea of "the flaws you see in others reflect the flaws within you."

Meaning, the bad points you see in others actually hints at those same exact bad points inhabiting your own character.

I hated this idea from the first moment I heard it.

It also made no sense to me.

For example, I've never committed murder or even tried to commit murder.

In fact, I haven't even violently assaulted another person. Ever.

And not only am I not a murderer, I haven't even come close to an act that leads to murder: I never cut anyone, beat anyone, held anyone underwater, or grabbed someone by the throat.

Yet when reading the news, I come across murder. I see a murderer on the news. If I say, "This person is a murderer"—does that mean I'm a murderer?

According to the above theory (as initially presented), it does.

Yet that is patently false.

Another example: The Nazis who shoved children into gas chambers, then watched as they died in suffering—I think they're really bad. Evil. I hate them. I wish such people never existed & that anyone like that would just die on the spot.

So because I both see & despise their demented, demonic, and sadistic evil...then does that mean I am also really evil, demented, demonic, and sadistic?

Again, according to the above theory, it does mean that.

Interwoven within the logic issue: The idea is also terribly insulting.

To compound the insulting aspect, people tend to say this after you've just made yourself vulnerable by revealing a very hurtful thing said or done to you, and how hurt or angry you feel about it.

Meaning, you're basically told you are just as awful as the person you hate.

Again, very insulting & a way to kick someone when they're already down.

I had no problem with the idea of projection (meaning, that a person sometimes projects their issues on to others & accuses others of one's own flaw).

But rejected the idea that seeing bad in others automatically meant I was just as bad as them.

So those were the 2 issues I had with this idea:
  1. It makes no sense intellectually; it's often false on a purely factual level.
  2. In addition to its falseness, it's terribly insulting on an emotional level.

The Frum Encounter with the Idea

After joining the frum community, I encountered this idea a bit more often, although not frequently.

And it still bothered me.

It still felt insulting AND still made no sense.

It didn't help that the people who like to say this usually do so with a knowing little smile that feels more smirky than sympathetic.

When they're not smiling about it, they tend to come off as either pompous or very grave (like, "I'm revealing a severe truth about life—and about you in particular").

How ever they made the statement, it only remained a superficial statement without any further explanation.

Even when confronted with the argument made above ("So if I see demented evil, that means I'm demented & evil in the same way?"), either the person's smirk deepened (as a nervous response) OR they looked surprised at the question.

But like I said, it didn't happen often. (Most people have better sense & compassion than to randomly say such things.)

Yet when I found myself in a dilemma upon encountering the idea as a core Jewish insight—straight from the Gemara Kiddushin 70a: 
V'kol haposel pasul v'eino midaber bashivcha l'olam v'amar Shmuel: "Bamumo posel."

And every person who disqualify another is himself disqualified; and about he who never speaks in praise of others—Shmuel said: "In that flaw he is also disqualified."

Furthermore, this core Jewish idea also stands as a fundamental in Chassidus from the Baal Shem Tov himself (source):
 "When you see ill in your friend, it is your own ill that you are observing."

What I didn't know at the time was the context of that Gemara, which discusses lineage & legitimacy vs. illegitimacy.

But Chazal definitely take the idea beyond lineage.

Also, the Gemara specifies a person who derides others habitually, and not just a normal criticism when the topic of evil comes up.

However, the Baal Shem Tov does include even one-time criticism as reflective of the critic.

​Yet because I only heard this idea presented superficially, I still lacked any context to receive it because of the 2 arguments stated above.

Lacking the tools to deal with this, I pushed it to the back of mind (where it still secretly bothered me).

"Dear Most Cherished & Beloved": A Love Letter from God

I think I first encountered a satisfying explanation of the idea when reading one of Rav Shalom Arush's books.

Basically, the undesirable behavior of others is a loving message from Hashem to indulge in some soul-searching.

Emphasis on LOVING.

Hashem LOVES us and wants us to achieve the purpose for which He placed us in this world.

Furthermore, the flaw of our nemesis does not HAVE to mean we are as bad as our nemesis.

It COULD mean that. Sometimes, it DOES mean that.

But most of the time, it doesn't mean we are as bad.

Our nemesis has the flaw a magnified a million times more than our little flaw.

Hashem wishes to bring it to our attention by emphasizing it in this way.

It's similar to someone shouting or grabbing you just before you walk into an oncoming train.

However violent their behavior toward you is, it's to prevent you from become railroad splatter.

It's not meant to hurt you (as far as Hashem's intention), it's meant to save you.

Furthermore, undesirable behavior in others isn't always the same message from Hashem.

It doesn't always mean you share an aspect of that too.

For example, undesirable behavior from others could also be a lesson in what NOT to do—before you ever even think of doing it.

It can also be a cleansing atonement for past sins—whether in this life or a previous life.

Other reasons exist.

But this post focuses on the idea of using another's undesirable behavior as a message to invest in yourself.

A Loving Message with 1,000,000x Magnification

So, finally armed with an explanation I found both intellectually & emotionally satisfying, I sought to include this method in my program for self-improvement.

And it's definitely very challenging at times.

It's vital to use this method with LOVE.

LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE.

It's not, "Oh, what's wrong with me THIS time?" or "I never get a break; Hashem keeps criticizing me."

No, it's a LOVING message from a LOVING God Who is EXTREMELY FOND of you.

(If you do find yourself getting down about it, switch to looking at it as a different opportunity, like cleansing atonement or to thank Hashem for yissurim to bring yourself merits or to practice compassion or giving the benefit of the doubt, etc.—whatever works for you at that phase. As noted above, another's undesirable behavior does not HAVE to be a reflection of your own in any way. It often is. But not always.)

Another advantage of focusing on the Hashem-behind-the-scenes aspects is this focus deflates a lot of the pain & intensity involved in an unpleasant interaction.

It makes it less personal, allowing you the room to step back & view it from a healthier angle.

It grants you more objectivity.

Not always & maybe not as much emotional distance & objectivity as you need, but it helps a lot more than anything else.

So that's the key to this method:
  1. View it as the agent of a LOVING message from Hashem.
  2. If it reflects on you at all, realize it's reflecting at an extreme magnification a million times more than your actual flaw. (In other words, do NOT think you are as bad as the other person.)

The Unopened Message

Another similar way to view an unpleasant interaction to respond to it as an unopened & very personal message from the most important king—which is thrust in your face.

  • Do you want to deal with the message right away, focusing more on the message than the intermediary of the messenger?
 
  • Would you like to put it aside & open it later—maybe when you can focus on it better?
 
  • Would you like to ignore it completely?
 
  • Would you like to ignore it forever (even letting the messages pile up over time)?

I personally do all of the above at different times (except knowingly ignoring forever) because I find it impossible to always be so "holy."

Sometimes, I'm just not ready to deal with the message—at least not right away.

So I'm not going to tell you to do something that I don't always manage to do myself.

However, I'll give you the same encouragement I give myself: Try it as best you can.

In Part II, we'll look at some true stories of how this could've worked (but the person did not take advantage of the opportunity—to her detriment) & Part III shows how this definitely works well when used:
  • part-ii-a-story-of-why-how-this-method-couldve-been-used-but-wasnt-plus-a-list-of-tips-of-how-to-do-this-in-the-healthiest-way.html
​​
  • part-iii-a-personal-story-of-how-to-use-the-undesirable-behavior-of-others-as-a-message-how-why-it-works-plus-what-to-do-what-to-avoid.html

Here are posts with other true stories:
  • the-1-way-to-deal-with-anger-other-intense-negative-emotions.html
  • chinuch-and-cheshbon-hanefesh-how-it-works.html
Picture
1 Comment
Elisheva
6/10/2021 16:17:24

Thank you for addressing this issue. It has come up for me over and over again as well. I think we learn how "not to be" as well from others. Maybe we can see the flaw in ourselves and learn that we are not to allow ourselves to express it the same way as they do. We are all technically capable of the same things, right? And everything is on a continuum from one extreme to the next. The key is balance and moderation of our traits. Thank you again for your enlightening lesson!

Reply

Your comment will be posted after it is approved.


Leave a Reply.

    Privacy Policy

    Picture
    Please note this is an affiliate link. Meaning, I get a small cut but at NO extra cost to you. If you use it, I'm grateful. If not, you still get a giant mitzvah connected to Eretz Yisrael.


    Feedburner subscription no longer in operation. Sorry!

    Myrtle Rising

    I'm a middle-aged housewife and mother in Eretz Yisrael who likes to read and write a lot.


    Picture
    Sample Chapters

    Categories

    All
    Aliyah
    Anti Jewish Bigotry
    Anti-jewish-bigotry
    Astronomy
    Book Review
    Books
    Chagim/Holidays
    Chinuch
    Coronavirus
    Dictionaries
    Emuna
    Eretz Yisrael
    Erev Rav
    Gender
    Hitbodedut
    "If The Torah..."
    Jewish Astrology
    Kav Hayashar
    Kli Yakar
    Lashon Hara
    Love
    Me'am Loez
    Minchat Yehudah
    Mishlei/Proverbs
    Netivot Shalom
    Parenting
    Parsha
    Pele Yoetz
    Perek Shira
    Pesach
    Politics
    Prayer
    Purim
    Rav Avigdor Miller
    Rav Itamar Schwartz
    Rav L.Y. Bender
    Recipes
    "Regular" Jews
    Rosh Hashanah
    Society
    Sukkot
    Tammuz
    Technology
    Tehillim/Psalms
    Teshuvah
    The Lost Princess
    Tisha B'Av
    USA Scary Direction
    Women
    Yom Kippur

    Jewish Blogs

    Daf Yomi Review
    Derech Emet
    Going...Habayitah
    Halacha Q&A
    Hava haAharona
    Miriam Adahan
    My Perspective

    Shirat Devorah
    Tomer Devorah
    Toras Avigdor
    True Tzaddikim
    Tznius Blog

    Yeranen Yaakov
    Rabbi Ofer Erez (Hebrew lectures)

    Jewish Current Events

    Hamodia
    Sultan Knish
    Tomer Devorah
    Yeranen Yaakov

    Jewish Health

    People Smarts

    Archives

    October 2022
    September 2022
    August 2022
    July 2022
    June 2022
    May 2022
    April 2022
    March 2022
    February 2022
    January 2022
    December 2021
    November 2021
    October 2021
    September 2021
    August 2021
    July 2021
    June 2021
    May 2021
    April 2021
    March 2021
    February 2021
    January 2021
    December 2020
    November 2020
    October 2020
    September 2020
    August 2020
    July 2020
    June 2020
    May 2020
    April 2020
    March 2020
    February 2020
    January 2020
    December 2019
    November 2019
    October 2019
    September 2019
    August 2019
    July 2019
    June 2019
    May 2019
    April 2019
    March 2019
    February 2019
    January 2019
    December 2018
    November 2018
    October 2018
    September 2018
    August 2018
    July 2018
    June 2018
    May 2018
    April 2018
    March 2018
    February 2018
    January 2018
    December 2017
    November 2017
    October 2017
    September 2017
    August 2017
    July 2017
    June 2017
    May 2017
    April 2017
    March 2017
    February 2017
    January 2017
    December 2016
    November 2016
    October 2016
    September 2016
    August 2016
    July 2016
    June 2016
    May 2016
    April 2016
    March 2016
    February 2016
    January 2016
    December 2015
    November 2015
    October 2015
    September 2015
    August 2015
    July 2015

    RSS Feed

    Copyright Notice

    ©2015-2022 Myrtle Rising
    Excerpts and links may be used without express permission as long as a link is provided back to the appropriate Myrtle Rising page.

Home/Blog

Most Popular

Kli Yakar in English

Aliyah

Contact

Copyright © 2023
Photos used under Creative Commons from Brett Jordan, BAMCorp, Terrazzo, Abode of Chaos, Michele Dorsey Walfred, marklordphotography, M.Burak Erbaş, torbakhopper, jhritz, Rina Pitucci (Tilling 67), Svadilfari, kum111, Tim simpson1, FindYourSearch, Giorgio Galeotti, ChrisYunker, Jaykhuang, YourCastlesDecor, bluebirdsandteapots, Natalia Medd, Stefans02, Israel_photo_gallery, Commander, U.S. 7th Fleet, BradPerkins, zeevveez, dfarrell07, h.koppdelaney, Edgardo W. Olivera, nafrenkel88, zeevveez, mtchlra, Liz | populational, TraumaAndDissociation, thinboyfatter, garofalo.christina, skpy, Free Grunge Textures - www.freestock.ca, Nerru, Gregory "Slobirdr" Smith, trendingtopics, dolbinator1000, DonkeyHotey, zeevveez, erix!, zeevveez, h.koppdelaney, MAURO CATEB, kevin dooley, keepitsurreal, annikaleigh, bjornmeansbear, publicdomainphotography, Leonard J Matthews, Exile on Ontario St, Nicholas_T, marcoverch, planman, PhilWolff, j_lai, t.kunikuni, zeevveez, Ian W Scott, Brett Jordan, RonAlmog, Bob Linsdell, NASA Goddard Photo and Video, aaron_anderer, ** RCB **, Tony Webster, mypubliclands, AntonStetner, Zachi Evenor, MrJamesBaker, sammydavisdog, Frode Ramone, Wonder woman0731, wrachele, kennethkonica, Skall_Edit, Pleuntje, Rennett Stowe, *S A N D E E P*, symphony of love, AlexanderJonesi, Arya Ziai, ePublicist, Enokson, Tony Webster, Art4TheGlryOfGod, seaternity, Andrew Tarvin, zeevveez, Israel_photo_gallery, Iqbal Osman1, Matt From London, Tribes of the World, Eric Kilby, miracle design, RonAlmog, slgckgc, Kim Scarborough, DonkeyHotey, Mike Licht, NotionsCapital.com, h.koppdelaney, gleonhard, Pedro Travassos, nociveglia, RonAlmog, Israel_photo_gallery, Septemia, Paulann_Egelhoff, Tatiana12, MAD Hippies Life, Neta Bartal, milesgehm, shooting brooklyn, RonAlmog, smilygrl, gospelportals, leighblackall, symensphotographie, zeevveez, Kyknoord, wotashot (taking a break), Tambako the Jaguar, bitmask, Arnie Sacknooson, mattymatt, Rob Swystun, zeevveez, Dun.can, Tim Patterson, timeflicks, garlandcannon, HRYMX, fred_v, Yair Aronshtam, zeevveez, Ron Cogswell, FindYourSearch, Israel_photo_gallery, Serendipity Diamonds, zeevveez, Steve Corey, Dominic's pics, leighklotz, Stefans02, dannyman, RonAlmog, Stephen O, RonAlmog, Tips For Travellers, Futurilla, anomalous4, Bob Linsdell, AndyMcLemore, symphony of love, andydr, sara~, Gamma Man, Mike Licht, NotionsCapital.com, robef, European Southern Observatory, Brett Jordan, Johnny Silvercloud, Israel_photo_gallery, smkybear, --Sam--, Paulann_Egelhoff, Selena Sheridan, D'oh Boy, campbelj45ca, 19melissa68, entirelysubjective, Leimenide, dheera.net, Brett Jordan, HonestReporting.com, Iqbal Osman1, One Way Stock, Jake Waage, picto:graphic, Marcelo Alves, KAZVorpal, Sparkle Motion, Brett Jordan, Ambernectar 13, Howdy, I'm H. Michael Karshis, Steven DuBois, Cristian V., tortuga767, Jake Cvnningham, D'oh Boy, Eric Kilby, quinn.anya, Lenny K Photography, One Way Stock, Bird Eye, ell brown, Mike Licht, NotionsCapital.com, Kevin M. Gill, lunar caustic, gerrybuckel, quinn.anya, Kaz Andrew, kodomut, kayugee, jintae kim's photography, Futurilla, terri_bateman, Patty Mooney, Amydeanne, Paulann_Egelhoff, Mulling it Over, Ungry Young Man, Ruth and Dave, yangouyang374, symphony of love, kennethkonica, young@art, Brett Jordan, slgckgc, Celestine Chua, rkimpeljr, Kristoffer Trolle, TooFarNorth, D'oh Boy, Grace to You, LittleStuff.me, Kevin M. Gill, philozopher, traveltipy.com, Alan Cleaver, crazyoctopus, d_vdm, tonynetone, penjelly, TheToch, JohnE777, hello-julie, DaveBleasdale, Michael Candelori Photography, andessurvivor, slgckgc, byzantiumbooks, sasha diamanti